Making a drawing from an existing part.

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Re: Making a drawing from an existing part.

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Fastyankee wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:41 pm It might be easier for me to buy a flat bed scanner what’s your thoughts on that ?
I would probably buy this one if you want to do 11 x 17 size scans.

https://www.amazon.com/Plustek-Flatbed- ... 017&sr=8-2
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Then you won't have to worry about taking a picture with your phone and not having it aligned properly. I would lay your part on a piece of white paper, trace around it with a Sharpie or thin line Sharpie, and scan it in. For larger parts, you could break the paper trace into sections - scan them in, and then put them back together with the software (Design Edge or Inkscape).

It is also possible to place a part directly onto the scanner for a scan, but I would personally prefer not to risk scratching the surface of the scanner.

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Andrew - you were asking about making door panels and we discussed options such as the Calcomp Digitizer board, flat bed scanners, Scanything template tracer, and more. Most of these are costly pieces of equipment to purchase. Here is what I was suggesting to you as an inexpensive alternative for scanning in larger parts like VW door panels. Inkscape or Design Edge will work for this.

You will basically be attaching your door panel template to the wall at an appropriate height such that your camera will be at the same height when taking your pictures. For my example, I am using a fairly simple template - but it could be a more complex shape and the result should be the same.

Here is the Inkscape procedure I used. It works pretty well and will get you pretty close. I would expect that after you cut your first panel, you might do some slight edits to the DXF file to tune it in to exactly what you need for a perfect fit.

Also - instead of cutting a test part first - I would suggest using a Sharpie pen holder attached to your torch and drawing the part on a clean piece of metal or paper, cardboard, or large dry erase board using the appropriate marking pen. Then edit your drawing as necessary before cutting your first part.

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Re: Making a drawing from an existing part.

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Re: Making a drawing from an existing part.

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Here is the same process using Design Edge to do the manual trace and scale.
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Here are the svg and pcm files in case you want to check them out.

By the way, for a door panel this simple is might be easier to simply draw it using the reference dimensions. But let's say it is not just a simple rectangle and has lots of other features - curved sides, cutouts into the sides, etc. - then that might be harder to draw from scratch. The example process I show will work for many different shapes and configurations.


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Re: Making a drawing from an existing part.

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adbuch wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:35 am Here are the svg and pcm files in case you want to check them out.

By the way, for a door panel this simple is might be easier to simply draw it using the reference dimensions. But let's say it is not just a simple rectangle and has lots of other features - curved sides, cutouts into the sides, etc. - then that might be harder to draw from scratch. The example process I show will work for many different shapes and configurations.


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door panel manual trace from Inkscape.svg
Design Edge door panel photo manual trace.pcm
Design Edge door panel photo manual trace.dxf
This panel hapens to be pretty easy but I'm using it as a practice example. I would just draw this one out honestly.
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Re: Making a drawing from an existing part.

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I made this one simple just to show the process - step-by-step. Yes - it could be drawn from scratch using the dimensions I provided. If I were to add some more curved shapes to the outer perimeter then I would be a better candidate for using this process of taking a picture and tracing. I also talked about making a template from scratch using poster board, and then taking photos of the template - real life situation for your door panel.


Here is the photo you sent of your VW door where you want to make a panel to fit.
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Here is a method that I have used often in the past to make a template from multiple pieces of cardboard or poster board.
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In the past I would have used my finished template to transfer the shape to a sheet of metal for manual cutting. I have done this many times for things like fan shrouds, dash panels, chassis plates, etc. That was before I had all the cnc equipment I have now.
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